Congratulations. 

Steve Fielding attends a science lecture in the USA and hears of Solar Explosions so in his opinion the ice caps are not melting and the globe isnt getting warmer. To think he actually convinced people to vote for him. When I came to Australian nearly 50 years ago we thought we were doing well if the rain held off for easter, now we are getting it close to July.  Climate change according to that dope is a myth. Where will it end with these politicians. God help us.

Westozzy, I am not quite certain, but I don’t think that Steve Fielding, is suggesting that there is no climate change.  I think that he is suggesting, that a lot of scientists believe that it is not man made.  only 50 years ago, in London, it got so bad with the coal smoke combined with the fog, that you had to feel your way along the streets in the wintertime.  They banned coal fires around 45 years ago & the temperature didn’t go down.  Just on 30 years ago, the same scientists that are now telling us that the new carbon doesn’t make trees grow, were warning us of the new ice age.  How does that make him a dope?  There are a few highly educated scientists who seem to think that the effect of a few coal fired generators doesn’t quite equal the effect of a few solar flares, each one of which is the equivalent of a couple of thousand atom bombs being ignited at once.  Before you come back & say that I am an idiot, or one eyed, or a single minded Liberal, please look up the various speeches of Senator Fielding & give me one single instance where he said their is no climate change.  BUT, why would anyone want to listen to these dopes with PHDs when there are others being paid fortunes to look for ways to reduce the carbon that the trres live on?

I bow to your far superior knowledge and liberal adoration.

That is just the sort of smart ass answer, we don’t need.  I have made it quite clear, on a number of occasions, that I believe in Liberal philosophy, but NOT in the Liberal Party.  I have no superior knowledge.  Simply put, you said that Fielding claims that there is no climate change!!!!  To which I replied that he has never said that at all.  EVER.  If I am wrong, give me just one single quote.

Westozzy, I made 6 points, not one of which you answered I did not even say which theory I believe in.  I only defended your uncalled for & incorrect alligation the Senator Fielding is a dope, just because somebody wishes to miss quote him.

Im not going to argue with you or your beliefs and blogs but who are the WE you refer to. Are you the spokeman for A.S.

Global warming isn’t real, says Fielding.......huh huh

Have you ever thought of applying for a job with the Labor Party, as a spin doctor, Westozzy?  Taken, in context, Senator Fielding said, only yesterday,

“I think that global warming is real, and climate change is real, but on average global temperatures have stayed steady while carbon emissions have increased over the last 15 years’’.

This is a factual quote!!!  Just, by the way, Sen. Fielding is NOT a Liberal.
I havent mentioned a single belief.
I do NOT have, nor have I ever had a blog, here, or anywhere else.
The whole matter is being discussed, at this very moment, in Copenhagen, by the top scientists in the World.  They have not yet reached any conclusions.  BUT, you rightfully point out, what would a meeting of over 100 PHDs know about the subject?  Especially if their opinion happens to differ with the World’s renowned expert & highly qualified KRudd

Since Al Gore strode on to the international stage, and started touting his film, a number of errors have been found in the film.  In the meantime, thousands of scientists have tried to put a case forward, that the current era of climate change is not man made.
The AGW (man made global warming)camp has for a number of years now, pushed down our throats, that the debate is over.

Note also, the rhetoric talks about climate change, rather than global warming.

The problem is...... there has been NO debate. Those who disputed the theory of AGW, firstly and still, are regarded as heretics against the AGW cult.
Their theories are not, and never have been given, even a fraction of the coverage in the media that the AGW camp has been afforded.
The doomsday mentality is what sells newspapers and gets ratings.

Sen Fielding admits that he blindly believed at first...going along with the crowd.
And this is why I admire him....he realised that he’d only been hearing ONE side of the so called debate.
At his own considerable cost, he decided to do detective work of his own.

As far as the Libs go, well I AM Liberal, but I note the opposition climate change shadow minister, Greg Hunt, is firmly in the AGW camp.

People such as Prof Ian Plimer, Sen Fielding, and Dr Dennis Jensen, are just a few pretty smart people who simply ask that their theories be accorded the same respect as an unproven theory touted by some.

The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of “settled science” and an overwhelming “consensus” in favor of the hypothesis of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong. No such consensus or settled science exists. 

http://www.petitionproject.org/purpose_of_petition.php

Dr David Evans was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005.

But since 1999 new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming, and by 2007 the evidence was pretty conclusive that carbon played only a minor role and was not the main cause of the recent global warming. As Lord Keynes famously said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”

There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of the most basic salient facts:

[url=http://Since Al Gore strode on to the international stage, and started touting his film, a number of errors have been found in the film. In the meantime, thousands of scientists have tried to put a case forward, that the current era of climate change is not man made. The AGW (man made global warming)camp has for a number of years now, pushed down our throats, that the debate is over. Note also, the rhetoric talks about climate change, rather than global warming. The problem is...... there has been NO debate. Those who disputed the theory of AGW, firstly and still, are regarded as heretics against the AGW cult. Their theories are not, and never have been given, even a fraction of the coverage in the media that the AGW camp has been afforded. The doomsday mentality is what sells newspapers and gets ratings. Sen Fielding admits that he blindly believed at first...going along with the crowd. And this is why I admire him....he realised that he’d only been hearing ONE side of the so called debate. At his own considerable cost, he decided to do detective work of his own. As far as the Libs go, well I AM Liberal, but I note the opposition climate change shadow minister, Greg Hunt, is firmly in the AGW camp. People such as Prof Ian Plimer, Sen Fielding, and Dr Dennis Jensen, are just a few pretty smart people who simply ask that their theories be accorded the same respect as an unproven theory touted by some.

The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of “settled science” and an overwhelming “consensus” in favor of the hypothesis of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong. No such consensus or settled science exists.

But since 1999 new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming, and by 2007 the evidence was pretty conclusive that carbon played only a minor role and was not the main cause of the recent global warming. As Lord Keynes famously said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of the most basic salient facts:

Thank you koko, A lot better expressed, twice, than my lousy totally wasted effort.  Having said that, let me remind you that you are also, wasting your time, because ‘’there are none so blind etc etc’’

Dont get upset Innes, wasnt it one of your mob that said “life wasnt meant to be easy” Im sure we will never forget him. By the way Im probably the only person in australia that asked to be removed from the electoral roll because my disgust ,distrust and dislike of those people that break promises tell lies break the law and fine me if I dont vote. Turning up to vote informal is a joke,Ive never done it and never will. Compulsory voting is a tool for the “Donkey” vote so we never really get the true government we hope for.  que sara sara............

westozzy, Malcolm was not one of my mob.  I actually met the man on a couple of occasions & couldn’t stand the arrogant SOB. I suspect that you have not become an Australian Citizen, because many Brits have simply not bothered.  If you have not taken Australian Citizenship, you are not legally able to vote in any election, other than Local Government if you own property, If you have taken out Australian Citizenship & haven’t voted, you forego any right to criticise any Government or elected official.  If you are a Citizen, you cannot have your name removed from the roll.  Even if, as the Labor has discovered, quite often when you are dead.

I suspect that you have not become an Australian Citizen, because many Brits have simply not bothered..................Well Mr Innes not that its any of your business but I am and Australian Citizen and bben one for some decades. Ive served as a govenrment ministers rep ona a board and been on many committees. So in reply to your unruly outbursts may I just say.........UP YOURS...........

If there was not billions of dollars to be made from global warming involving man’s use of carbons we would not even be having this debate.

It is simply just another way of making money and Al Gore who left the White House with 2 million Us is not a billionaire on the back of his movement of carbon credits trading and his interests in ‘green’ matters which has generated the money. As Koko said his movie which many went and saw and were converted into believers had 22 mistakes of Fact according to the British High court and schools were told they were not allowed to shot it to the children unless it was amended.

Most likely seeing as the left wingers reign also in British school system they showed it anyway!

One thing I haven’t seen a lot of mention of is that the exact same warming that took place on earth up to 1998 - when it stopped and started to cool - went on on Mars.
Now those Martians are a bit missing in actual fact and so haven’t been burning coal or making carbons - they don’t even have any forests to sink the carbons into and of course haven’t been clearing them for profit like we have down on earth.

And the lucky sods do not have Penny Wong and Penny Sackett (please do) not answering Senator Fielding’s very apt and reasonable questions either and treating all of us like mushrooms.

Have a look at this those who think that all scientists agree that carbon is the cause of global warming which is now having to be called climate change as it stopped warming in 1998.

http://petitionproject.com/

31,478 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs

How many decided for the United Nations that is/was happening you know global warming that when it stopped had to be renamed climate change - which of course has been happening on earth for millions of years -

oh yes 52 of them and since then many have denied they agreed anyway and say UN lied.

China and India neither of whom have any intention of doing anything other that pouring out their emissions and taking as many of our jobs collectively from any western countries as possible.

Sen Wong’s response to Sen Fielding.
http://www.environment.gov.au/minister/wong/2009/tr20090624c.html
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Edit to add:

Professor Bob Carter, former National Climate Centre head Bob Kininmonth and Associate Professor Stewart Franks , and Dr David Evans, scientists and weather experts who assisted Sen Fielding have compiled a response to Sen Wong.
For their response go to Andrew Bolt’s page and scroll down under the heading:

“Wong as wrong on sea as on air”

Link here